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Report - Woodfold Hydraulic Remains (Pleasington, Lancashire, 2019/21)

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urbanchemist

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I had a look round the Pleasington Alum works a couple of years ago (nothing much to see) and went back more recently to check out a mill and hydraulic ram in Woodfold Old Wood further up the valley.

First a map of part of the area - the sawmill appears between 1844 and 1892 and the ram by 1910.


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A few things in the valley and surrounding woodlands on the way upstream.

Photos are all phone.

Alum Scar Bridge (listed) in the background, photo taken standing on a rather impressive weir with four channels, two on either side of a central pier.


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This may have been for controlling water flow to the alum works downstream.


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A shell-like wreck (called the ‘White House’) with a nice frontage…


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…the remains of Old Woodfold Farm…


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…and a (listed) icehouse with an egg-shaped interior.


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Now heading up Arley Brook…


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…there are four cisterns marked on the map.

One looks like a shallow well and the other three are brick boxes with filters.

The picture below is the cistern nearest the ram with water running through a filter chamber into a reservoir full of tyres.


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The sunken ram hut is down the hill, hidden in the undergrowth, with a channel for waste water leading down to the river.


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But no ram.


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After chucking out a load of sandstone roofing slabs and mud this is what was left.


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If there was a ram here it looks like it was replaced by a piston-type pump at some stage, with whatever drove it bolted to the plinth.

The two bases are earthenware, not iron. So a bit of a mystery.

The remains of the sawmill visible on the other side of the valley didn’t look too promising either.

Indeed the main part was a complete wreck with nothing visible under the collapsed remains apart from a section of lineshafting.


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I hadn’t looked at the map too closely and assumed the mill was going to be powered by a waterwheel with the water coming from this weir about 50 yards upstream.


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But no sign of a wheel pit or leat - instead there was a water turbine in an extension on the river side.


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The water apparently came across the valley on an elevated aqueduct - it’s shown on the map - and down the pipe.

As far I could see the levels don’t really work with the weir being too low although it’s hard to judge horizontals in a sloping valley.

There’s also what looks like the remains of a leat running up the side of the river near where the aqueduct began.

Another small mystery.

But water turbines are cool so some more pictures.


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The protrusions on the back of the turbine would once have been linked by rods, rotating together to move control vanes inside.

I didn’t see a maker’s name or serial number, but this might be a Gilkes turbine.

There was a similar one in the sawmill near Llwydiarth in Wales - turbines make sense for sawmills because they rotate much faster than water wheels so require less gearing.


The hole in the base of the wall where the water from the turbine ran back to the river.


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And a local who was hopping around in there.


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I haven’t found any details online about the sawmill and the other hydraulic remains, but everything in this area was, and still is, part of the Woodfold Estate.

As with a couple of previous reports about valleys in Cheshire, these places with old waterworks are always worth a wander.
 

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Loving the ice house image did you manage to get a exterior photo ? They usually go underground to keep the ice cool in the summer months . Also a great report :thumb
 

HughieD

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You're really getting into this mate. Can see why. Off the beaten track and proper exploring. Keep 'em flowing...
 

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I really liked this. Great research and great find. Phone pics came out very good. You found a lot there. I do like ice houses. Those old turbines are really cool.:thumb
 

urbanchemist

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Loving the ice house image did you manage to get a exterior photo ? They usually go underground to keep the ice cool in the summer months . Also a great report :thumb
Here’s what the outside looks like - it used to have a square porch.


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Icehouses are interesting things in their own right, and you’ll find plenty on old maps, along with boathouses, lime kilns, pump houses etc.

But few of these are really ‘explorable’ in the sense of having anything to see inside.
 

dave

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Great work there and loved that little fella at the end it must be treat to see these places and the added bonus of amazing wildlife too.
 

synchronoscope

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Another interesting post, you always deliver! Can't help thinking though the two ram pump bases are still there. Looks like they've been unbolted and smashed up for scrap. They are the correct shape for earlier pattern ones. Appreciate you say they are earthenware, but looks like corroded iron to me! The stone base is a mystery unless it was for an air vessel or tank?
 

urbanchemist

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Another interesting post, you always deliver! Can't help thinking though the two ram pump bases are still there. Looks like they've been unbolted and smashed up for scrap. They are the correct shape for earlier pattern ones. Appreciate you say they are earthenware, but looks like corroded iron to me! The stone base is a mystery unless it was for an air vessel or tank?
Yes, they do look just like ram pump bases and I remember being surprised that they appeared to be pottery not iron (could be wrong though).
 

tigger

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Missed this one.

The weir structure near the bridge is three sluices each side of the curved central pier not two. It had railings set into it once upon a time but nothing about the structure made much sense to me. Your second photo has you standing above a tunnel that headed into the hill (was full of mud as I recall), then the first channel which just goes into a chanber. Next two open then the pier. Three more but all open beyond that. Couldn't work out what the other weirs between it and the sawmill were for either.

The two ram bases are cast iron not ceramic.

The turbine could be a Williamson Brothers or Gilbert Gilkes . Certainly early as it has the thin control rods for the vanes.
 

urbanchemist

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An early map shows the site of a mill below one of the weirs, but nothing there now.
Have you actually checked the ram bases? Would make much more sense if they were iron.
 

tigger

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An early map shows the site of a mill below one of the weirs, but nothing there now.
Have you actually checked the ram bases? Would make much more sense if they were iron.

Aye, visited 20-25 years ago. Looked much like your pre-tidy up images and no rams present despite part of the pipework looking like it had been replaced in plastic relatively recently at the time. The big house was derelict back then but subsequently restored as appartments I think.

There was more wall at the front of the turbine house then as well as some roof. I missed the line shafting though. Other thing of note at the time was that the turbine was large compared to most old vortex types and it didn't look as though there would be enough water in the valley to run it except in winter.

If that weir had been part of a mill building it would make more sense but I didn't note anything between it and the bridge.

(edited to remove some of the terrible typing. I'm sure keyboards are smaller than they used to be)
 
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