Ha, actually its interesting to revisit this one, especially as i can read all the deleted posts you lot cant. This thread only really tells a fraction of the story now which is a bit sad. Its doesn't tell anything about the inter-forum backstabbing going on at the time. We slipped up and managed to tell the wrong person about it before we had actually been there. Word got through to people who hated us so much they had to warn security we were coming and try and make sure it got sealed up and us caught (they got the wrong date tho lol). Apparently it was security that removed the makers plate for safe keeping in the end. (I thought a good outcome really but where is it now??). Then there were the people (same ones i think) who, after we got in anyway, thought they would try and frame us for stealing it lol. It all got a bit complex working out what had even gone on for a while. The fact i had posted such provocative things on here about it at the same time (unknowing of the above) really put the cat amongst the pigeons. I still get shit today from people who cant accept the way it all panned out or are still living the wrong version of events..
The UE world has changed since this tho. The tourist thing is still a big issue but there are a lot more active explorers out there now. A lot more people looking and finding. The problem now is we have done it all. As far as i can see the supply is drying up, decent new places are few and far between and an ever growing number of the non-explorer 'tourists' wanting to visit them causes a lot of friction. I kind of regret posting this thread nowadays (or at least using some of the phrases i did), ive learnt not to claim firsts or say i found anything anymore. Theres always someone ready to crop up out of the woodwork and say they were in there months ago but just 'hadnt posted' or whatever. Nowadays i realise its the contribution to the community that matters more than literally 'being first' in somewhere. Our biggest problem today is that far too many people are taking, and not giving. If a decent place does crop up its swamped. Doesn't matter if people are actually exploring and keeping secrets or if they are just on the tourbus every weekend, if you share something with the community you kind of earn the right to be on that tourbus to the next good thing. If you never share anything, yet are always on that same bus then your the problem as far as i can see. Its a slightly different problem and a more refined outlook on the solution i guess. Still people pour scorn on you for having the nerve to point out the obvious tho
puts off the joyriders, rewards the intrepid.
